I'm rewriting Building Skills in Python. 2.7 is out. As more libraries make the move, 3.1 is getting more and more viable.
I'm looking closely at the Decorators chapter (Part 3, Chapter 6).
And I'm struggling with classmethod. It's a first-class part of Python. And I'm sure there are folks who find it useful.
But I'm struggling to find a "simple" (i.e., under 12 lines of code) example where it might be useful.
Indeed, I'm starting to suffer from a growing feeling that this is one language feature that I can gracefully elide from in-depth to mere mention.
There is a relevant Stack Overflow question: What are Class methods in Python for? But the examples there aren't terribly compelling. Perhaps I have a blind-spot here because I never seen a big need for writing metaclasses. Or perhaps because I don't see a need for creating alternate constructors -- the options in __init__() seem to cover almost all my needs.
Just if it helps you as a real-world example, one ...
Jaime<noreply@blogger.com>
2010-08-17 08:41:36.512000-04:00
Just if it helps you as a real-world example, one specific classmethod that it's very useful it's when dealing with ORMs. Specifically with SQLAlchey.
Your class it's something like
class MyClass(Base):
id = sa.Column(sa.type.Integer(), primary_key=true)
name = sa.Column(sa.type.String())
@classmethod
def all(cls):
''' Get all the elements of this class '''
return meta.Session.query(cls)
I don't know if it's a good example, as it relies on a particular module (SQLAlchemy) and have some concepts of that module, like meta and query it, etc... but, well, it's a real world example.
Other use I sometimes give to classmethods is, if for a particular static function I want to associate it to a specific class, but it's not using any object information, sometimes I will "attach" it to the Class. For example, let's say we are describing vehicles
class Vehicle():
def __init__(self, type):
self.type = type
@classmethod
def get_num_wheels(cls, type):
''' Return number of wheels for a particular type of vehicle '''
matrix = {'CAR':4, 'BIKE':2, 'TRUCK':8}
return matrix[type]
I could do the same with a static function outside the class, but I found sometimes clearer to attach that inside the class, so the calling will be Vehicle.get_num_wheels(type) Maybe it's just a stupid example... ;-)
I use class methods often, but almost always as al...
casey<noreply@blogger.com>
2010-08-17 12:38:47.211000-04:00
I use class methods often, but almost always as alternate constructors. They really have nothing to do with metaclasses IMO, though they can be useful with them. I've probably used classmethods 100 times for every 1 time I've created a metaclass (and more often then not, I wind up refactoring it away later anyhow 8^).
Probably the best practical example is when an object can be constructed with args of different meanings. I find it more explicit than sniffing the arg types in __init__. Also sometimes, the types of the input args are the same type in both constructors. A simple, useful example I ran into recently is a 2D vector class. It can be constructed two distinct ways: with cartesian coordinates or polar coordinates. It so happens that in both cases they are two numeric arguments (x,y or angle,length) so a classmethod is perfect to differentiate cleanly.
Another common use I find for them is for classes for scripts or daemons. In __init__, I have all of the scripts command line options broken out into separate arguments. Then I have a classmethod like: "from_argv(cls, argv)" which takes the arguments as a list of strings as they would be passed in from the system. This uses argparse or whatever to parse them and delegates to __init__ using normal arguments. This makes everything, including the command line arg parsing easily unit testable, but I'm not forced to fake out CL args to instantiate the class when testing, unless I want to test that explicitly.
I use classmethods periodically and I don't fi...
TheBashar99<noreply@blogger.com>
2010-08-17 18:05:55.387000-04:00
I use classmethods periodically and I don't find them particularly confusing. They're a convenient way to define methods which do use some class level data but do not use instance data.
@classmethod
def compute(cls, input1, input2)
return (input1 / input2) * cls.scale
What I think we're struggling with here is the...
Anonymous<noreply@blogger.com>
2010-08-17 11:29:39.727000-04:00
What I think we're struggling with here is the fact that all bound methods in python are a mere convenience - you get "self" for free. But whatever "self" is could have been an argument to an unbound function in the first place.
When you start talking about classmethod, you give up even that small convenience. When we use classmethod, we are typically trying to represent one of two things:
1) Static data that could just be stored on the class or module in the first place or
2) A function that returns different values based on arguments passed in, and not on "self". In this case, one might question why we want to attach this seemingly unrelated function to the class at all, and not simply leave leave it as an unbound function in the module's namespace.
This seems the simple, reasonable thing to do, which is why I think we struggle to come up with practical examples.
Probably the best argument for class methods that ...
Unknown<noreply@blogger.com>
2010-08-17 12:51:05.295000-04:00
Probably the best argument for class methods that I've seen is for alternate constructors. __init__() provides the most common one and then class methods provide alternate forms of construction. E.g. Decimal.from_float() or somesuch.